Showing posts with label Luis Pineda. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Luis Pineda. Show all posts

Thursday, September 1, 2022

Belated August 27, 2022 Boxing Thoughts

The month of August 2022 closed with both curiosity and intriguing in two events being staged on August 27th in two different countries. First, it was the debut of the MisFits Boxing series that pits celebrities and social media personalities in the Boxing ring to do battle. An event that was streamed on digital subscription sports streaming network DAZN as part of its subscription offering as well as a low cost pay-per-view offering depending on what country or region you were viewing the event from. The United Kingdom, Ireland, and those of us in North America (United States and Canada) were offered the event at a low cost of $9.99 for current subscribers.

Some readers will recall a column penned by this observer last week where I asked a simple yet complex question because it could be answered in a variety of ways. Does “Celebrity Boxing “ hurt or benefit the sport? I also concluded that column by saying that I would be tuning in, in part out of curiosity as well as a Boxing scribe in search for his next story, ending the column by offering an observation to any would be viewer of “No Expectations, No Disappointments. “ It was not surprising that the bouts on this card though contested without the participants wearing headgear, were not professional bouts as most of the participants had little, if any Boxing experience prior to the event.

Regardless of how one views “Celebrity” or “Influencer Boxing” it should not be overlooked or dismissed that the content creators on this card though out of their elements with a few exceptions, were able to draw a sell out crowd in the O2 Arena in London, England that was on par with any major Boxing event. Although some may view that as a negative to the sport, it is impressive and does show that those influencers do have the ability to use their respective followings to draw a crowd.

As far as the bouts were concerned, frankly, I do not believe that anyone who is knowledgeable about the sport of Boxing should have expected professional level bouts. The participants should be given credit for stepping into a ring that is outside of not only their comfort zones, but also their respective areas of expertise and taking a risk to their health in doing so.

While some may expect this observer to be overly critical of an event like this as someone who does have the sport’s best interest at heart, I did not have any expectations going into the event. There is one thing that is a negative that cannot be ignored however, and that is it was obvious to an experienced eye that some of the participants likely had little time to prepare as most of the fights did not last long, which can also be a reflection of the lack of experience many of the participants had.

The main draw of the event was KSI, (Real name Olajide Olatunji) who was 1-0 as a pro boxer with a victory over fellow YouTube star, now business partner Logan Paul in 2019 in an officer professional fight, choosing to compete in two bouts on this card after originally scheduled opponent Alex Wassabi needed to withdraw due to suffering a serious injury in training for the bout. While KSI’s decision to compete in two exhibition bouts on this card was clearly motivated by wanting to ensure the scheduled event could go on as planned, it is something that is a rarity in the sport. In his first bout that actually began the card, KSI scored a second round knockout over an overmatched London-based rapper Swarmz.

KSI would return to close out the event by facing pro boxer Luis Pineda in the main event. A criticism that many within Boxing have, including yours truly with regard to the influx of celebrities/influencers that have ventured into the sport in recent years has been a reluctance to face pro boxers in officially sanctioned professional fights rather than participating on the exhibition circuit and/or competing against fellow influencers. For what it is worth, Luis Pineda did have pro Boxing experience having competed in seven pro bouts, this fact did little to give him credibility as the fighter, who had a 2-5 record competing as a 154lb. Jr. Middleweight, spent more time complaining from the canvas during this exhibition than he did actually trying to compete with KSI. The three round bout, which had so many knockdowns that yours truly quit counting midway through the second round, was mercifully stopped before the end of the third round.

While this event did not fill me with thoughts that any of those who competed would find their way towards competing as professional boxers, it was nevertheless entertaining and giving credit where it is due, KSI’s bout with Luis Pineda was akin to what a new professional fighter is likely to see in their first couple of fights. An opponent that has a record that can be described as non-descript and someone who will be used by their opponent’s handlers as a way to get their fighter’s feet wet in the professional side of the sport as well as to gage where their fighter is in terms of their development.

The obvious question not only I, but those who also watched this event are probably asking is whether or not this type of concept of “Celebrity” or “Influencer Boxing” can work in the long-term. I obviously cannot answer that question, but what I will say is I feel those behind this series need to clearly establish and define this concept. What I mean by that is it needs to be made clear as to what this series is intended to be. A separate genre within the sport of Boxing that is strictly within the niche of “Celebrity/Influencer Boxing,” or a series that will showcase those who have serious intentions on pursuing a legitimate Boxing career. It goes without saying that as a combat sport, there are inherent dangers that come with the territory and no matter what, any person who steps into a Boxing ring needs to understand those dangers and not treat it with a cavalier mentality. Simply put, people do get hurt and risk their lives each time they step into a ring to compete. If one has no intention of treating the sport with the respect it deserves and commands, they should not get into a ring. Boxing needs to be taken seriously.

On that subject of the sport being taken seriously, two former world champions also did battle on August 27th in a bout that was strictly all business. This observer is speaking of course of the Jr. Welterweight bout between former Lightweight world champion Richard Commey and Jose Pedraza that brought with it Commey’s debut in the 140lb. Jr. Welterweight division.

If one has followed the sport for a long period of time, you can develop a sense for what type of fight you are going to see based on the style of the two fighters. This was a case where both Commey and Pedraza had similar styles and similar ways in which they approach their opposition. It was based on this as well as my having covered fights in both of their careers that I said in previewing the bout that this had the potential to be a close fight. I then went a step further in saying that outside of the possibility of a knockout, which can never be dismissed, that this fight could end in a close decision.

As it would turn out, this analysis was spot on. For ten rounds Commey and Pedraza engaged in a tactical Boxing match where virtually every round was fought the same way. Neither fighter had an issue being willing to fight in close and each seemed to match each other punch for punch. This resulted in an extremely close fight where neither fighter was able to stand out clearly from the other resulting in the bout ending in a ten round split decision draw.

While the fight likely will do little to move either fighter towards a title shot at 140lbs., it does underscore what I did say prior to the fight in that just as the talent pool in the 135lb. Lightweight division is and has been traditionally deep, so too is the Jr. Welterweight division and as the lastest line of notable Lightweights including Richard Commey move into the field at 140lbs., the competition level is going to remain high and the talent-depth is going to get deeper and deeper. Unfortunately for the time being, this likely means that both Commey and Pedraza will find themselves facing off against each other in a rematch because they’re fight on this occasion turned out to be dead even and it is hard to make an argument for either fighter based on how close this fight turned out to be inside the ring that there should not be a rematch even though both fighters will likely have other options moving forward.

With the month of August 2022 now in the rearview mirror, it will be interesting to see what the month of September now has to offer.

“And That’s The Boxing Truth.*

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Wednesday, August 24, 2022

Does “Celebrity Boxing” Hurt Or Benefit The Sport?

 

Since the latest influx of celebrity bouts began to find its way into the sport of Boxing a couple of years ago, one question that I have been asked more than once is do these bouts, which nowadays usually consist of social media influencers help Boxing overall or does it actually hurt the sport? Obviously, it is a question that can be viewed and answered in a variety of ways. 

 

The most obvious argument in favor of these bouts occurring on a regular basis is that it brings in a segment of the population that the sport of Boxing for whatever reason struggles to attract on an ongoing basis. This observer is referring to the casual fan. Normally when discussing the struggle Boxing faces in procuring the interest of a casual fan, yours truly will often use the term “Casual Sports fan.” A distinction of fan that can be defined as one with a general interest in sports, but not a thorough follower of any particular sport. In this case however, the term should be reduced slightly to “Casual fan” as a means of describing one who may be a fan of a certain celebrity or influencer, but may not watch sports on even a casual basis, much less Boxing.  

 

While one should not dismiss the viability of a casual fan as the aim for any sport should be to draw as many eyes as possible to it, do “Celebrity Boxing” bouts succeed in drawing the interest of those casual fans beyond the celebrity involvement? To be honest with the reader, I think the answer is a bit mixed and cannot be answered simply with a “Yes” or, a “No.” The reason for this is simply because the answer depends both on who you ask as well as the extent of the “Celebrity” involvement. 

 

To provide some context, let me take the reader back a few decades. In the early 2000’s the Fox television network here in the United States produced a series of specials titled “Fox Celebrity Boxing.” While the fights if you want to call them that, that occurred on these shows were not necessarily aimed at being taken seriously as a legitimate sporting endeavor, the bouts, which were held in front of a live studio audience did for a time generate interest amongst the public and as a result, the network did a handful of shows with the “Fox Celebrity Boxing” branding over a limited period of time. As someone who viewed these shows when they took place, but did not cover them, I understood that it was more than likely a ratings initiative by the network as the cards were held during the summer months, which usually was not the best time for a network to produce consistently good ratings outside of sports programming as many weekly scripted television programs were not in season during the summer months. I also understood not to take things too seriously as the way the show was presented was such that it was meant for entertainment rather than to be taken as necessarily legitimate Boxing contests. 

 

The reason why I cannot reminisce too much about the series is simple, it did not last long and it is questionable as to whether or not beyond mere curiosity that it had any impact whatsoever on the actual sport of Boxing whether it be positively or negatively. In more present times, the influx of “Celebrity Boxing” has been in the form of those who have achieved notoriety as either social media influencers or YouTube stars that have ventured into the sport. 

 

Readers may recall when this trend started, I stated that anyone who entered the sport from an outside realm would get a fair shake from me so long as the sport of Boxing was treated with respect and taken seriously as it should be for the reason being that it is a combat sport and as such those who participate in the sport are risking their lives each and every time they enter the ring. It is therefore important to me as someone who truly cares about the sport and wants to see it thrive, that it is not treated by those entering it from the outside as a joke, because reality is, it is anything but. 

 

In fairness, those like the Paul brothers and KSI (Real name Olajide Olatunji, who have had actual professional bouts on their respective Boxing resumes, at least on the surface appear to be treating the sport with some level of respect. The criticism that all three as well as others have faced, despite their pleas to be taken seriously as fighters is they have not yet competed against anyone with Boxing experience unless you count Logan Paul’s exhibition with Floyd Mayweather as a legitimate Boxing contest, which it was not, thus the exhibition distinction. 

 

While Logan Paul’s bother Jake, has tried twice thus far to get into a ring in a competitive Boxing match with a person with a Boxing background, as of yet, has been unsuccessful in getting a fight in the ring. Now, KSI following the withdrawal of scheduled opponent Alex Wassabi, who were scheduled to meet in a Boxing match that would headline a card broadcast on DAZN Pay-Per-View in some countries and part of a standard monthly or annual subscription on DAZN in others. With his desire to keep his scheduled August 27th date, KSI will now face two men on the card in the same night. 

 

While this is an obvious attempt by both KSI and the network to salvage the event, which will take place at the O2 Arena in London, England and be available through DAZN Pay-Per-View for an economically reasonable price of $9.99, and it does appear to be a gimmick by someone facing two opponents in the same evening, there is actually a precedent for such an event. Depending on one’s age, some may remember an event that took place in Toronto, CN in April 1975 where after losing the World Heavyweight championship to Muhammad Ali in October of 1974, George Foreman returned to the ring in an event classified as an exhibition where he faced five overmatched opponents in one night.  

 

Although such an event was designed as both a way for Foreman to get back into the ring following what would ultimately become the only knockout loss of his career, and as a publicity stunt in an attempt to re-establish Foreman’s scary aura as one of the sport’s feared “Knockout Artists,” the event was universally held in little regard due in part to the lack of quality opposition that Foreman faced on that evening.   

 

In this case, there is no such aura of intimidation or feared knockout power for KSI to establish, but competing in two exhibition bouts in one evening may appeal to some on the surface because it is something that is rarely done, even by seasoned professional boxers. Despite his limited professional Boxing experience, unlike his YouTube counterparts in the Paul brothers, KSI will facing at least one man with professional Boxing experience in facing a man by the name of Swarmz, who is known as a Rap artist. Swarmz, has never been in a Boxing ring before. KSI will however, begin the evening by facing Luis Pineda. 

 

 Both fights are not official professional bouts, but in regard to the Pineda bout, KSI will face a fighter with seven professional bouts, but one with a record of 2-5, with 0 Knockouts. It should also not be overlooked that Pineda, is a Jr. Middleweight, which has a weight limit of 154lbs. In his one professional bout in a rematch from an amateur bout against Logan Paul, KSI fought as a 190lb. Cruiserweight.  

 

While original opponent Alex Wassabi had to withdraw due to suffering a severe concussion while training for the bout with KSI, one should wonder just how successful this event will be both in terms of a live gate attraction and as well as an event for digital subscription sports streaming network DAZN, who has vowed to only dip their toes into the pay-per-view realm on a sporadic basis. Even though the card featuring the two exhibition bouts is being sold in some countries including here in the United States and Canada at a more reasonable price of $9.99 compared to virtually all Boxing cards sold through pay-per-view, it is a fair question to ask how successful this event will be when all is said and done. 

 

What cannot be overlooked is networks like DAZN and the Paramount-owned Showtime have welcomed these social media influencers/ YouTube celebrities with open arms. While it cannot be discounted that there is a method to the networks madness in trying to get their network in front of demographics of fans that may not of otherwise given either much of a look, so far, the jury is still out as to whether or not it will have much long-term benefit to the sport of Boxing long-term, particularly in regard to Showtime who has willingly signed a multi-fight contract with Jake Paul to showcase him exclusively on the pay-per-view model, which thus far has produced mixed results. 

 

Although yours truly will be tuning into this exhibition event both for curiosity and as a Boxing scribe in the endless search for his next story/column, I feel it important both as a Boxing lifer, as someone with the best interest of the sport at heart, and as someone who listens to the criticism of the sport from everyone ranging from those involved in Boxing to those who are “Casual Sports fans” on a daily basis, to simply offer this caution to anyone watching this event. “No Expectations, No Disappointments.”  

 

“And That’s The Boxing Truth.” 

 

KSI vs. Swarmz /KSI vs. Pineda takes place on Saturday, August 27th at the O2 Arena in London, England. The event can be seen in the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom on DAZN Pay-Per-View beginning at 2PM ET/11AM PT (*U.S. Times and Pricing.) The card will be available outside of those markets as part of a standard monthly or annual subscription to DAZN’s streaming network.  

 

For more information about DAZN including schedules, list of compatible streaming devices, platforms, Smart TVs, availability around the world, local start times in your area, how to access this event in your region, and to subscribe please visit: www.DAZN.com. 

 

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